Getting Real with Mindfulness Podcast
Episode 4: Mindfulness Is Boring

Oxford Mindfulness

In this featured episode of Getting Real with Mindfulness, Claire Kelly (Oxford Mindfulness) and Victoria Fontana (Mindgazing) explore a surprisingly common experience in mindfulness practice: boredom.

Why can a few minutes of paying attention feel so uncomfortable? Why does the mind so quickly look for something else to do? And is boredom really the problem we think it is?

Drawing on mindfulness practice, psychology, and personal experience, Claire and Victoria unpack what boredom may be pointing toward, and why learning to stay curious about it can reveal more than we might expect.

About Getting Real with Mindfulness

Getting Real with Mindfulness grew out of conversations between Claire Kelly and Victoria Fontana. They often found themselves discussing the questions, challenges, misconceptions, and unexpected moments that arise in mindfulness practice. Over time, they began to wonder whether others might enjoy being part of those conversations too.

The podcast is an invitation to explore mindfulness in a way that is honest, practical, and grounded in real experience. Together, Claire and Victoria take a curious look at topics that many practitioners encounter, from common myths and misunderstandings to the often messy realities of trying to bring mindfulness into everyday life.

They approach these conversations as fellow explorers: asking questions, sharing experiences and finding room for both seriousness and humor along the way.

About the Hosts

Claire Kelly is a mindfulness-based mentor and the Director of Teaching and Training at Oxford Mindfulness. With more than 25 years of experience in education, she is passionate about developing and delivering evidence-based programs that support mental health and wellbeing.

Victoria Fontana is a mindfulness and compassion teacher, executive coach, and educator who helps people cultivate greater clarity, resilience, and self-understanding in their lives and work. She teaches internationally through IE University, the Mindfulness and Health Institute, and through her own programs here at Mindgazing.com

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